tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post4264841565928207877..comments2023-07-13T15:21:56.218+03:00Comments on Echoes: Why Is It So Hard for Windows Users to Understand That Linux Is Not WindowsCraciun Danhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03828173788831953470noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-67736164076233026932017-01-17T09:32:50.776+02:002017-01-17T09:32:50.776+02:00Ok you have a point, however I already learned all...Ok you have a point, however I already learned all those things on windows. So now when I switch to Linux and I can't figure out to do those tasks in a reasonable amount of time I get frustrated and go back to windows. What am I suppose to do? I can't log in to Linux and pretend that I'm 5 years old again and only do basic tasks. Especially when all it takes to go to a familiar place where I can do anything I want is to restart my Pc and pick windows instead. imissthefuhrerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17692689536826520957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-89744043358912964352013-12-20T02:17:32.794+02:002013-12-20T02:17:32.794+02:00Oh thank God, that Linux != Windows! I have severa...Oh thank God, that Linux != Windows! I have several machines for several purposes, two of them running on Windows (Basically for DJing - I haven't found any solutions which work fine for me, so I stay at my WinXP with a VirtualDJ), a nice network server, hosting all my media files and some PXE-related stuff, a Raspberry Pi as a media center connected to my TV in the living room, some diskless computers - why should I else handle the PXE-stuff on my server? All in all a heterogenic network, samba- and nfs-shares in peaceful coexistance, and everything is just fine.<br /><br />I have some question, as someone mentioned package managers in quite a stressed tone: Where is the problem? I mean I like it to have a tool like aptitude granting me full access to the repository, sorted by purpose, allowing me to select the software to install, and then telling me that I additionally have to install some other packages, deinstall some others and to update a third group, better than to google for some software, suitable on my problem, hoping that it's no malware, and when trying to install, it tells me "You need software B to install this software!"<br />Yes, the manual way to install some software isn't as nice as on Windows, but what would it look like if the software came in source code and not as a binary for Windows too? You had to configure it right the same way, you also had to compile it, and in a final step install the freshly generated binary to the according place! So at best will, I don't see any problems with that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08108450813636682306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-86517938331231755782011-12-08T22:13:00.422+02:002011-12-08T22:13:00.422+02:00I installed Ubuntu Linux 10.10 on a customer's...I installed Ubuntu Linux 10.10 on a customer's PC side by side with Windows 7. She was nervous about the injection of OpenSource code on her new HP monster machine. But with a bit of coaxing along with a demonstration of how it works on my own PC, the door was opened.<br /><br />The HP required a Vista-to-Win7 upgrade that seemed endless. Returning the next day to find the job done, a partitioning prepared the drive to receive GNU/Linux.<br /><br />The Ubuntu setup time astonished my client in light of the Win7 upgrade. I opened the printer panel and didn't see her equally new HP printer. She suggested I simply turn it on. The icon appeared. Printing <b>and</b> scanning was flawless from the start.<br /><br /><b>hiccup</b><br />My client tried upgrading Ubuntu online. All worked well, but she found she was unable to connect to the net. I re-installed 10.10 and suggested she wait on 11.04 until I was done testing the new interface.<br /><br /><b>a year later</b><br />I asked her which she spent more time in: Win7 that she was so desperate to keep ... or Ubuntu 10.10. She answered immediately: "Oh, 99% of my time is in Linux. I only use Win7 for a few things... and most of <b>that</b> is watching it update. *sigh*"<br /><br /><b>Note:</b> 99% of her time is in Linux <i>after her brother-in-law suggested Linux was for geeks, its interface was difficult to understand and help was not easy to get.</i><br /><br /><b>gnu/linux isn't windows</b><br />I agree. I am very thankful it isn't. I still run XP for some tasks. But since 2005 my main system has been and will continue to be Linux.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-8698074102370024032009-10-13T06:32:13.836+03:002009-10-13T06:32:13.836+03:00if u tried linux n go back to windows cuz u feel i...if u tried linux n go back to windows cuz u feel its slow or cannot multitask, it could be that your computer sucks or old.. linux comes in a variety of distro that you really have to try each and you WILL encounter one which really CLICKS with your pc hardware, working like a mother** fast like the wind. for me, it was jumping distro til i found archlinux. package manager pacman is one click install, huge repository, includes 'yaourt' which builds your program from repo also instead of make install, n theres a 'powerpill' program which slice n multi download that 10mb package in a minute.. extensive wiki covers every in and outs of the operating system and i just love it. i was a win user since a kid, remember pascal?, just got win free 2 years ago bye2 windows. everything i can do in win, i can do better in linux as of now with the learning and exploring of course. n now im into compressing my linux system into thumbdrive plug into any pc and presto, my own operating system on the go in any pc/laptop without leaving a trace on it. works like a charm, its called 'larch' damg linux is funnnnn... heheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-71047600630534783302009-03-23T20:56:00.000+02:002009-03-23T20:56:00.000+02:00Windows != Linuxthat's clear, either OS has it's a...Windows != Linux<BR/>that's clear, either OS has it's advantage.<BR/>I think the main problem to understand the differences of OSes is that Windows is more friendly for end-user that don't know much (and don't want to learn);<BR/>while Linux is for geeks (in a good way) for the need of commands, hacking, configurations... things that most users don't want to deal with.<BR/>I use both Red Hat and Windows Servers at work, no problem with either. The problem I have is with users that don't have any knowledge in computer and need to do simple functions. With Windows there's not much maintenance to install and config, while in Linux it's some sort of pain. <BR/>In Windows I need to keep up with updates, anti virus, security... Not in Linux.<BR/>So, I thing it's hard for people to think. Think that Linux is NOT windows. <BR/>When people talk about Linux, they think it's a free copy of Windows, with similar softwares.<BR/>I do some webdesign/development, using Dreamweaver. There is no similar in Linux.<BR/>OpenOffice is NOT the same thing than MSOffice, but it does the job.<BR/>Both systems have Firefox and rss readers, not an issue.<BR/><BR/>What I do get from Linux users is that they are like a close community that don't accept complains! <BR/>Linux users think they are the only good ones, and that MS users are dumb for using other OS than Linux. It's an option, not being wrong!<BR/>About "Shut up and code", people shouldn't be impolite no matter what! that's another problem in Linux, not all users are geek or computer major.Grigorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06643248292627695218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-28591310644642752112008-12-31T02:40:00.000+02:002008-12-31T02:40:00.000+02:00Different objectives - different approach - differ...Different objectives - different approach - different OS.<BR/><BR/>I use both *nix and Windows for various tasks I have to accomplish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-26221460789881970192008-12-05T12:01:00.000+02:002008-12-05T12:01:00.000+02:00Windows is not linux. There are no restrictions in...Windows is not linux. There are no restrictions in linux other than knowledge (or the will to attain that knowledge) and its application. In windows there are many limitations that are intrinsic parts of windows code, unchangeable - regardless of how much you know about it!<BR/> Example, try running wlan (wifi) cards, sticks, whatever, in monitor mode on windows. You can`t, simple. In linux you can, just type [sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor] - for me anyway, specifics may change depending on linux flavour or interface program/script used.<BR/> Why might one need to do that? If you have made a large £ investment in some M$ server software, you can find out how crap and insecure it really is, and how you could have the same amount of insecureness for free with linux, its just there are less viruses/trojans/etc for linux systems than M$ or mac and most opportunist hackers/scammers rely on people having M$. Plus you can make your system actually neer airtight on linux just investing time and effort and gaining an intrinsic knowledge of how it works and how to tweak (you can do the same for M$ but, even though you may get to know it intrinsicly, there next to nothing you can do to alter it).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-30439141535899031172008-12-02T22:55:00.000+02:002008-12-02T22:55:00.000+02:00Apples and oranges... It's teh philosophy of being...Apples and oranges... It's teh philosophy of being able to alter, share, be involved in the build of a distro or app. If windows fits your needs, pay the money and save the time. If you want to break out of the normal confines of license agreements etc for whatever reason, you should ethically and morally move to open source software.<BR/><BR/>I use(d)<BR/>Vista<BR/>XP<BR/>Open Suse 10.3 gnome, 11.0 KDE<BR/>Fedora<BR/>Mandrake<BR/>OS 8, 9, XAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-1892609250292175232008-11-27T06:57:00.000+02:002008-11-27T06:57:00.000+02:00i use windows for playing latest hot games like Wa...i use windows for playing latest hot games like Warcraft 3, Command & Conquer 3, Red Alert 3, etc...<BR/><BR/>i use windows for playing games with shockwave embedded website...<BR/><BR/>i use windows for editing & creating website with Dreamweaver 8...<BR/><BR/>windows now are more advance... also got more software for tighten its security. i like to use linux (ubuntu) which is the top rate distro but i miss directory opus, dreamweaver, windows directx games, etc...<BR/><BR/>i love linux but i love windows more...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-71969938983899923162008-11-09T17:05:00.000+02:002008-11-09T17:05:00.000+02:00Spanner in the Works!I read with interest what you...Spanner in the Works!<BR/><BR/>I read with interest what you're all saying. I see why so many governments and individuals alike are moving over to Linux and in the 100's of thousands - It's free!<BR/><BR/>In these cash strapped times it doesn't make sense to spend millions of pounds on Micro$haft Winblows.<BR/><BR/>However...<BR/>Because of the vast number of Winblows users out there, there is an equally huge number of software applications available.<BR/><BR/>Me? I'm in it for the money. That's all, it goes no deeper than that - I'm as shallow as a teaspoon.<BR/><BR/>I build and repair computer systems. The money is in Windows and that's that.<BR/><BR/>I have build and installed only 4 Linux systems over the years compaired with thousands of Windows systems.<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't hesitate for a second to be more involved with Linux if the money were there, but it's not.<BR/><BR/>Linux is for geeks who solve their own problems using on-line forums. Windows is for cretins who can't tell a computer from their car stereo.<BR/><BR/>Linux could be the greatest invention this planet has ever known, but do I care?<BR/><BR/>No.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-4203101590521332962008-08-11T22:00:00.000+03:002008-08-11T22:00:00.000+03:00Linux applications has its learning curve, its cha...Linux applications has its learning curve, its challenges, and its deficiencies for the windows user. Chill has a point. He is free to feel that way. After all isn't freedom often hard-earned and slavery, oppression, or ignorance blissful?<BR/><BR/>The difference between Linux and Windows is like Freedom and Slavery. Freedom is often always hard-earned so s moving away from Microsoft's hegemony. Paying your way through is generally the chosen path just like people in corrupt countries like mine would rather maintain the status quo than exercise their rights.<BR/>Moving away from politics, let me recall how difficult and buggy Microsoft Outlook was about 5 years ago. I remember spending weeks just making sync work and when it did the vigilance I had to exercise to keep it working. I recall also how Microsoft took over ManagePro and required a 1GB ram on its upgrade some 5 years ago making the program overly bloated and virtually useless for most of us. I remember how McAffee screws up existing programs in their upgrades. I remember paying for these programs.<BR/>Perhaps chill has short memory or like the multitudes would rather maintain the status quo.<BR/><BR/>One fact I always remember is that Linux is free so that if it serves 90% my needs I am extremely grateful and most importantly happy.<BR/>Recently, I spent months in futility making recording equipment work because XP SP2 screwed up the firewire protocol.<BR/>Recently, too, I salvaged a laptop whose optical drive malfunctioned by installing Kubuntu from a USB. Try that with windows.<BR/>Everyone in my family including my 12 year old uses Kubuntu and Ubuntu. I still maintain an XP just for Cakewalk Sonar and my pro audio hobby. But I am confident that will not last longer.<BR/>The point is people have to be objective about Linux and appreciate the fact that it is free and gives us a growing list of choice and competence Windows has long deprived many of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-90104049270134394512008-07-31T19:41:00.000+03:002008-07-31T19:41:00.000+03:00I have absolutely no need to use Linux. I can get ...I have absolutely no need to use Linux. I can get most windows versions and software for free because of their university programs, and configuring it is easy.<BR/><BR/>About partitioning, my first time with fdisk I had little over a year of using windows, and it went flawlessy. Was 5yo at the time. Partioning is very easy anywhere.<BR/><BR/>Drivers and windows codecs work a lot like linux. There are many great codec packs, and most decent Media Players install them for you anyway...<BR/><BR/>BTW, I use linux a lot at work, and , for equal stability, I need to spend twice as much time, at least, to get the same things working...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-8047144944718316472008-07-25T23:05:00.000+03:002008-07-25T23:05:00.000+03:00There's a reason people pick Linux when they need ...There's a reason people pick Linux when they need a cheap, fast server.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-68431093191474793492008-07-21T17:04:00.000+03:002008-07-21T17:04:00.000+03:00Here's the thing and I think a lot of Linux adovca...Here's the thing and I think a lot of Linux adovcates miss this when pushing the OS. <BR/>Linux does some thing really exceptionally well. It shines on the server side, and that's not a bad thing.<BR/><BR/>On the personal computer side, I can honestly say it's not so good. My latest shot at Linux included Unbutu and Mandrake. Both of them failed the World of warcraft test. <BR/><BR/>I installed wine and went through the setup, it opened ok. However after the login I was unable to interact with anything in the game.<BR/>I chalked it up to new install of an OS I wasn't completely familiar with so went through the wilds of the internet and found a lot of very helpful advice, after much recompiling and more research, I finally discovered the solution to my problem was to purchase a commercial fork of wine because that was the only environment that had the support I needed. <BR/>I have no problem paying a monthly fee to the company that makes the game to play on their servers. I do have a problem with renting my OS so I can play games.<BR/><BR/>So I reformatted and threw windows back on. I agree that Linux is not windows, it's closer to DOS with windows 3.1 running on top of it, but I like most computer users have moved on from there and at least in my case are not willing to take the step backward without good reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-86877289956394793012008-07-20T07:20:00.000+03:002008-07-20T07:20:00.000+03:00"How much did it take until you fixed drivers for ..."How much did it take until you fixed drivers for a sound card or modem on a Windows Me/Windows 98 installation after something went wrong?"<BR/><BR/>Windows Me? Windows 98? You've got to be kidding me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-61414669137416374642008-07-20T02:51:00.000+03:002008-07-20T02:51:00.000+03:00Just left Debian after two years and got back to X...Just left Debian after two years and got back to XP. Why?<BR/><BR/>- Opera works fine with Flash, no more lockups, flash issues, X-server crashes every 10-15 minutes<BR/><BR/>- WPA/WPA2 works ootb. I couldn`t manage to make it work for my Broadcom under 2.6.22 kernel...<BR/><BR/>- No more dependency hell, like the need to dump whole X-server and depending packages, when switching from GCC 4.1.1 to 4.1.2<BR/><BR/>- Stuff just works... when i need a program, i just download and install it. On Linux, many apps ment hours of googling to make it install properly;<BR/><BR/>- my SIS 760GX has serious issues with movie playback when using videoram shared with RAM. Just for that i decided for upgrading RAM to 2gb... No DRI ofc and never will be... Under XP i can use it for Dx9 games... ugly and low framerate, but it works!<BR/><BR/>- No need to kill the mixer for music/video sound to work... Try it with kmixer locking up audio device just for itself...<BR/><BR/>- No hibernation for my lappy<BR/><BR/>- My BOINC SETI was plagued with corrupted results under Linux... Works fine on XP<BR/><BR/>I could just go on and on...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03790631081271004986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-86583373980999137112008-07-18T09:46:00.000+03:002008-07-18T09:46:00.000+03:00Im with Chill, Also, WINE would not run any of my ...Im with Chill, <BR/><BR/>Also, WINE would not run any of my Windows Apps (but I could wait a year to see if anyone got them to work for me), Fonts on Webpages in Linux are missing (whats with the global Times new roman??), It was not exactly fast (I tried 20 different distros including all the main players), the icons look like crap (as bad as the Vista ones! Yes XP Rules), and the list of those cheesy software apps to download (as chill said, there are tons more Windows Apps free or otherwise and most are 100 times more professional that the ones people are slapping together for Linux).<BR/><BR/>Sorry to burst your bubble, but Linux is doesn't come close to Windows - its like using a leaf to wipe your behind - there is a reason it is free!<BR/><BR/>Linux? I Might as well use DOS! HA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-33021698160589385082008-07-18T03:24:00.000+03:002008-07-18T03:24:00.000+03:00Edit: (No, OSX eye candy is as subjective as Compi...Edit: (No, OSX eye candy is as subjective as Compiz)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-74298470203625069702008-07-18T03:22:00.000+03:002008-07-18T03:22:00.000+03:00""so why most of the newbies and computers idiots ...""so why most of the newbies and computers idiots using windows and stick to it?... because Linux is free only if your time is worthless...""<BR/><BR/>They're newbies. Anything considered "tweaking" can be equivalent to programming for them because they've never been exposed to doing stuff with the pc.<BR/><BR/>Windows is as worthless to them with the exception that they don't know what an OS is so to them it becomes a necessary evil to which they have to be indoctrinated.<BR/> <BR/>""why would they need to read a couple man pages, surf linux distros support forum, ask everyone just to make some application installed properly""<BR/><BR/>The same holds true for many Windows applications especially non-shareware ones.<BR/><BR/>""while in windows you just download the installer, click and run in""<BR/><BR/>and get infected with a virus as soon as you log in to the internet and since they're newbies, they'll think there's a problem with windows and ask someone to fix it for them until they know better which because more people use windows, more people know how to do basic stuff in windows which would lead to the illusion that it's still easier to fix windows than install Linux.<BR/><BR/>"and osx is even better you just drag drop it..."<BR/><BR/>and pay for most quality applications on it. It's the equivalent of a glorified waste of cash to get something that hides the complexities of an operating system with no extra bonus to your life. (No OSX eye candy is as subjective as Compiz)<BR/><BR/>As you have clearly pointed out, installers are convenient enough for most newbies. Maybe even more convenient than drag and drop since it doesn't cripple them if that's the only OS they've ever been introduced to.<BR/><BR/>""no package manager""<BR/><BR/>Which is a minus as most users who got frustrated at finding out they can't remove IE without ruining their systems can tell you. Not to mention something which results in loads of crap coming pre-bundled with many XP systems<BR/><BR/>""no need for internet connection for update""<BR/><BR/>No idea how you can call this better.<BR/><BR/>"no stupid config and compilation things"<BR/><BR/>It's just hidden...until something breaks and then you're off to a forum anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-91386054731594148402008-07-17T04:42:00.000+03:002008-07-17T04:42:00.000+03:00"....Which leads to the conclusion that you need t..."....Which leads to the conclusion that you need to invest time and a learning curve in order to use Linux, just like you did first, when you started with Windows..."<BR/><BR/>so why most of the newbies and computers idiots using windows and stick to it?... because Linux is free only if your time is worthless... <BR/><BR/>why would they need to read a couple man pages, surf linux distros support forum, ask everyone just to make some application installed properly, while in windows you just download the installer, click and run in, and osx is even better you just drag drop it... no package manager, no need for internet connection for update, no stupid config and compilation things...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-45225812922285959092008-07-17T02:05:00.000+03:002008-07-17T02:05:00.000+03:00xenoterracide says: "name 1 kind of software that ...xenoterracide says: <BR/><BR/>"name 1 kind of software that windows has more offerings for than linux."<BR/><BR/>1. Personal Information Managers<BR/><BR/>Though it's not maintained anymore based on some of the reviews I've read or at least poor user feedback, GemX's do-organizer was to many the total package PIM or potential total package PIM that no other PIM has ever come close to.<BR/><BR/>Evernote Desktop version is another thing that just has no Linux alternative <BR/><BR/>OneNote is another.<BR/><BR/>YeahWrite can work on Wine but I'm excluding Wine Apps since Game apps which theoretically can be replaced by other games on Linux is excluded so emulators are out<BR/><BR/>2. Easier installer (technically this tag covers all software related to it)<BR/><BR/>Let's face it, for the beginning casual user especially those with no knowledge a basic doubleclick is still more user friendly to maintain and learn than installing from source.<BR/><BR/>Every casual Linux user who never had few troubles with Linux have one thing in common.<BR/><BR/>They either are satisfied with pre-installed applications or they have someone install for them.<BR/><BR/>Of course this is off set by Windows being less secure hence resulting in Norton ignorance which slows down their PC if the viruses have not caught on so it's not a plus for Windows but certainly something Linux is lacking and until more people take notice of mintinstall and more Linux distributions have it in them by default (including expanding it from single apps to packages to choices/auto-installation when installing the OS), Linux repositories will always be one step behind Linux as there's always going to be a chase for search keywords and the casual user will have to run off to learn how to install from source or be extremely lucky that their non-mainstream pet apps are already in the repositories. I only have one example but I feel this is a major one. When I last checked Synaptic which was a few months ago, a decent semi-popular program like ThinkingRock wasn't in it.<BR/><BR/>http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_elyssa.php<BR/><BR/>Easier installation = more choices or illusion of it because of less time needed to learn how to do a basic thing<BR/><BR/>3. Browsers<BR/><BR/>While the accusation of windows programs being more because they are just upgrades or clones of similar programs is more true than false on windows, the case is certainly different for browsers.<BR/><BR/>With one big key difference being Konqueror (because it's also a file manager), you're not getting your slice of IE + safer browser with little tweaks like Maxthon or lite Gecko browser like K-meleon unless you opt for Windows.<BR/><BR/>If that wasn't bad enough, both Epiphany and Galeon look even more like clones of Seamonkey/Firefox and unlike media players, in today's world it's the little things that separate a browser.<BR/><BR/>Not to mention as someone has pointed out, Flash while not having experienced what ch!ll posted is still better on windows and that might as well be a "no browser" for most users. Hell, for many users no IE = no browser. (*cough* developers who don't test on multiple browsers *cough* *cough*)<BR/><BR/>4. Distraction Free Writers<BR/><BR/>In Windows, you have Q10 and DarkRoom. In Linux...you have to tweak a text editor.<BR/><BR/>5. Novel Writing Software<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I know of any in Linux especially stable ones but feel free to post one.<BR/><BR/>6. Touch Typing Drills Software<BR/><BR/>Only one I found is TuxTyping and while pretty, it's pretty bare bones and acts more like a game which can be true for many of these softwares but when you're the only one, it really becomes jarring if you're set up more like a game than an instructional guide.<BR/><BR/>7. PocketPc integration<BR/><BR/>It could be that I just didn't search enough but I don't think there's a user friendly ActiveSync clone out there yet.<BR/><BR/>Besides the Novel Writing software, I don't think any of these can fall under professional either and there are a number of casual users who either do use them or can use them. <BR/><BR/>This isn't to say that these are crucial though. It might be possible to tweak Linux by combining certain programs to achieve such an effect but it's not going to be as convenient as getting a list of ptograms from X site/blog like what the author has done for other types of software in his other articles on this site. (Though I'm secretly challenging this blog to do just that)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-12717208665541268112008-07-15T20:43:00.000+03:002008-07-15T20:43:00.000+03:00ch!ll said: "And the cpu scheduler sux, in windows...ch!ll said: "And the cpu scheduler sux, in windows even if the cpu is 99% i can still do all my stuff, in linux is like once that happens you have to wait and wait or terminate and start over again."<BR/><BR/>Me:<BR/>That's not true at all ch!ll. All you have to do is change the nice level of your running apps and walla! you now have free cpu cycles. Windows on the other hand chooses the nice levels automatically which may not be a good thing at all.<BR/><BR/>Linux gives the power of the computer back to you. However, there are some very legitimate gripes about the OS general but they all tend to boil to this: hardware vendor support. Printing for example has come a very long way but it's still too fussy. Even printers reported to print as "excellent" at linuxprinting.org have too many hiccups that it can be a show stopper for some people.<BR/><BR/>For me, Linux has enough tools I NEED to have to have such as astronomy tools. But Windows has many tools I NEED as well, particularly printer drivers, I'm tired of getting hardware only to find out that it doesn't work despite the findings of many people and so called "compatability" lists.I've even found that ripping and encoding dvd movies in Virtualbox takes the same amount of time as it does running the os stand-alone.<BR/><BR/>So for me, running both OS's at the same time has been the solution to my needs. YMMV.<BR/><BR/>Rob<BR/><BR/>So my solution has been a Quad proc. running Vista host with Ubuntu running in Virtual box.Robocoastiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16995550502071650871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-36983639470724444572008-07-13T17:46:00.000+03:002008-07-13T17:46:00.000+03:00I've the same problem when trying to play some vid...I've the same problem when trying to play some vido files in windows Vista,,, seems windows media player not that good... Hemmm...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-43186601067659980782008-07-09T15:51:00.000+03:002008-07-09T15:51:00.000+03:00I have read through the comments and are struck by...I have read through the comments and are struck by the fact that nobody addresses the main issue that ch!ll raises. And that is the fact that anything is possible in Linux, but it takes to much time to get there. Of course anything that is possible to do in Windows is in theory possible on Linux and vice versa, they run the same hardware.<BR/><BR/>That is why a discussion on particulars is pointless. The Windows fan says: "This does not work." and the Linux fan says "Yes it does, you just do this." A solution can almost always be found to any specific issue. What the Linux fan often fails to realize (and what is the main point of the original blog post) is that behind this solutions lies effort. Since the market shares are what they are almost 100% of hardware manufacturers target Windows. Some target Linux/Mac OS as well, but ALL target Windows. So you just plug in your stuff and you are ready. You do not see "How to get your iPod working" posts on a Windows mailing list, simply because there is no need.<BR/><BR/>My current computer uses three 3 monitors of which one has its own GPU, remote controller for media, TV-card with decoder card, 3g modem, countless portable devices like keyboard, mouse, N95 phone, iPod and so on. I am certain I could get it working under Linux but I challenge anyone except mighty Linus himself to do it in under a day. And by working I do not mean 98% working (like applications on Wine), I mean working. In Windows it just works, out of the box, <1h setup.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore I think most Linux defenders (of which I count myself) focus too much on the cost of Windows. For anyone working with computers the licence fee for Windows and the apps used are nothing compared to billable hours. You chose the tool that is best for the job. I use Linux and Open Source because it is open and I cannot get locked in, not because it saves me $200 on a Windows license. During the day in the challenge above I could have worked on a client project and earned $1000 income instead.<BR/><BR/>I am a fulltime developer so naturally I do all my work on Linux since that is what is used on the production servers. I contribute by writing patches and plugins in the projects I use and are active on the forums. I love the driving force behinf FOSS. So please do not conceive me as a MS-boy (I developed web pages for IE5 so that alone makes me want to scream when I think about MS), I am just realistic. I really love KDE but I simply do not have time to get the hardware working. Instead I do all development on remote machines and keep my Vista locally so that all hardware works properly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1568130245619806374.post-12627019672952546112008-07-08T18:33:00.000+03:002008-07-08T18:33:00.000+03:00Re: CH!LL comments, I went to that site http://aza...Re: CH!LL comments, I went to that site http://azarask.in/projects/algorithm-ink/#e0274a5c with 6 other tabs open, one playing a youtube video, I was also playing music with Amarok, kopete messenger open, and just for fun I was running f-prot virus scanner. <BR/><BR/>I'm running Linux on a pentium III 512 ram. I haven't had any problems or slowdowns. Since I switch this computer to Linux, it has become faster than when it had XP. <BR/><BR/>So not sure why you had such a problem. And why is it, that nearly every super-computer runs Linux? Surely they wouldn't use it if it was slow.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I switched to Linux last year and it meets all my needs. Yes I had to learn some new ways of doing things, it wasn't difficult. I wasn't expecting a clone of Windows. <BR/><BR/>Sure there are more commercial software choices for Windows, but I've been able to find equivalent Linux software.<BR/><BR/>I'm a happy convert! I don't see any reason in the foreseeable future,to go back to Microsoft products and there stupid licensing agreements.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com